In a quandry

[valarltd]

OK,
so EC got back to me about Burning for Eight Days. (it's flocked, ping me if you're not friended)

1) the lez has to go. No f/f.
2) Needs more plot.

So, here is the question:
Do I revise...yet again, or do I just say "no thanks" and send it to Phaze for the Frost heatsheet?

I already submitted an earlier draft as a Frost when I hadn't head from EC.

The biggest problem with Phaze is the barJonas twins from Burning are the same as the benEzra twins that I submitted for the Frontier heat-sheet.

Comments

[witchwillow.livejournal.com]

I've been meaning to ask - EC is Ellora's Cave, right? Have you heard some of the grumble going around in respect to editors telling authors to change their stories, weak stories being published and unsatisfied authors?

I just wondered.

For myself, I didn't think the story needed 'more sex' back when they were asking for it. (Another thing authors were complaining about)

Aha! Found the link. http://karenknowsbest.blogspot.com/2007/04/so-whats-really-going-on-at-elloras.html

And is the story about the twins exactly the same? Could you create a universe with those twins for Phaze?

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

EC is Ellora's Cave. And from what I've seen, the quality of story varies widely and 90% of the SF writers have no business even trying it.

Some stuff is brilliant reannon below you for one, but some of it is stuff I would be ashamed to put my name to.

Ariel and David benEzra look, act and sound almost exactly like Mishael and David barJonas. Identical twins, both brilliant, one more techy.

The stories aren't the same but are both cyberpunkish. In "Pushing the boundaries of reality" they are seducing a netrunner and trying to bring things out of the net and into the real world.

[(Anonymous)]

EC are notorious for taking forever to answer submissions, but I'd take them over Phaze anyday.

Karen Scott

[reannon.livejournal.com]

*boggle* More PLOT? Never heard that from EC...

Um. I think you might be a tad up a creek here. Slightly bad form to submit it somewhere else when it's under consideration from EC. If you don't hear from them, you have to officially withdraw it before you can send it out again. But between the two, you'll make more money with EC, so if you were going to skip out on one of them, I'd say stomp Phaze.

But there's more than money involved. Perhaps if you say "never mind then" they'll back off and let you keep the lesbian scene. Or can it be rewritten as a menage? I had a threesome scene with two women and a man, and they let me get away with that.

Tough call, hon. How much do you love this piece? I switched imprints so I could keep the NU stories the way I wanted them because I loved them, but I did whatever they told me to with TANDEM because I wanted money. It's all a tightrope.

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

I know it's bad form and I've been knotted up for a couple months about this, ever since I found out EC didn't lose it in the slush pile like I thought. (It was well after Christmas, I figured they wouldn't want it)

Phaze is going to get a really nice note saying "I'm so sorry, here, please have two guys celebrating the solstice" (or something similar)

This is not a "God, I'll die if they change one word of my deathless prose" piece. It's just a "oh crap, here we go again, and I have no idea what to do about the plot part."

I do have a solution for the lesbian scene tho'. The sex goes, and the talk and booze stay

[creatorschilde.livejournal.com]

Persoanlly, I like Janice being in there, I think it shows a side of Hannahs personality that is standerd, and it adds a kick to the sotry that makes it a bit different.

THat being said, it wouldnt be the end of the world to change it to a menage, or even replace her with a man.

This final call is totally up to you. Revise or resubmit as you wish, I dont really have a preferance.

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

Thinking of keeping Janis, and turning it into a talk and drink session, letting Adina keep her rock-fixation but saving the sex for a while down the road.

I think it adds to the build-up: visiting and getting turned on by Janis, then voyuering Cupid and then taking the plunge for actual sex.

[creatorschilde.livejournal.com]

that works quite nicely. Id definitely go for that.

Your call, hon.

[dakiwiboid.livejournal.com]

I liked it as it was, but if you think it won't sell elsewhere, revise it for them.

Re: Your call, hon.

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

Been thinking hard while I've been on the road. Definitely a revision. But I have no idea what to do for a plot.

Maybe postpone the deal with Daddy until Valentine's and get a failed romance with the real Sean and have her tempted to retreat to her box instead...

But that doesn't feel like plot, it feels like a scene, and I'm not sure imploding romances sell.

[sailorcelestial.livejournal.com]

No lez? Tell 'em no thanks.

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

Unless your outfit wants it, the lez work is going to end up drinks and talk and arousal with jilling off.