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I'm writing a woman having sex with a pair of identical twins. The twins are NOT sexually involved with each other. (so far their faces have been pressed close together as they ate her out and their fingers got together inside her.)

Is having her take them both in her mouth at the same time, then alternate sucking one then the other, on the hot or the squicky side?

Also, is fingercuffs (one vaginally, one orally) inherently degrading, even when it's her idea?

See, this is why I don't write het!

Date: 2010-04-27 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassandra-gold.livejournal.com
My two cents:

HOT HOT HOT and not degrading at all, IMO.

Hope that helps, at least a bit. :)

Date: 2010-04-27 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bittermint.livejournal.com
Good gawd, woman, that just gave me another hot flash!

'Nuff said? ;)

Date: 2010-04-27 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] softlywhispered.livejournal.com
No, it is not degrading, Hell have her take them one in her vag & one in her ass too.. *nods* DP all the way. Fingercuffs is hot as fuck.

And no.. there's no squick if she's sucking them at the same time. Just have her look up into their eyes.. Mmmm

Date: 2010-04-27 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thunderpigeon.livejournal.com
The stereophonic BJ sounds really hot to me. I'm not sure if it would creep me out if I were more familiar with the characers and thinking about them as twins. A lot of it has to do with how you write it. The "fingercuffs" thing doesn't sound like a problem to me, if she's into it. I probably wouldn't _call_ it fingercuffs, though.

I asked my wife for her point of view, she also didn't have any problem with the fingercuffs, if the woman is into it. Was concerned that the simultaneous oral sex would leave both men shorted on the attention (I'm not sure this is accurate, but I must admit I've never tried it). She also added that threesomes tend to be more interesting if there's at least something going on all ways around, which of course would be a pretty drastic taboo with identical twins.

Date: 2010-04-27 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
It's all her point of view. Her/their owner (steampunk, 1850s) thinks of them as one person. She has to fight slipping into that mindset herself. I think I can keep it hot.

Twincest is extremely common in fandom, esp. with identicals. It's just not as salable on the pro-erotica side of the fence. (I dabbled in it a little with my conjoined twins)

Basically, Hester is on her knees, sucking one then the other, stroking the one she's not sucking, and they're getting telepathic stimulation as well.

Date: 2010-04-27 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thunderpigeon.livejournal.com
Your writing problems are so much hotter than my writing problems...

Date: 2010-04-27 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
*giggle* Comes of being an erotica writer.

The really fun part is the telepathic stimulation. Malachy and Dominick don't know what to make of that. But they sure like it.

Date: 2010-04-27 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thunderpigeon.livejournal.com
BTW, years ago, I was involved with a fun but promiscuous woman who had an identical twin. The roommate of the fun but promiscuous one suggested that I should date the twin, who seemed a bit more my temperament at the time, but I was afraid that wanting to be able to compare and contrast would have too much influence on the decisions I might make.

Date: 2010-04-27 02:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The D-Man Checks In: Is having her take them both in her mouth at the same time, then alternate sucking one then the other, on the hot or the squicky side?

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Having actually engaged in that oral activity once, from -my- experience it is not hot, and definitely awkward. The angle(s) for 2 men to squeeze into a woman's oral cavity at the same time is difficult at best, uncomfortable for the woman (as the mouth does not stretch like the vagina to fit around more than a set girth), and men (being men, at least if they are straight, in my opinion) are inherently competitive; each wanting to get in there just a little bit deeper & better than the other... I don't care how much I like, how I'm related to, or how cool I am with the other guy involved: Men cannot help trying to one-up each other in even intimate (or especially in any primal) circumstances. It's just part of their/our/my (chest-thumping) nature.

Go ahead: Try shoving 2 reasonably-sized pickles or 2 unpeeled bananas in your mouth at the same time. Most people have trouble just managing 1, let alone 2. Comfortable? Awkward? Now try moving them back & forth. Now imagine those tube-like food items having very active & sensitive nerve endings all along their lengths & fronts, and the all-but-inevitable bumping & rubbing... plus unintended encounters & scrapes with the woman's teeth!

NOT (really) a good time for anyone, although the guys would probably never admit it; same as many men will not admit to being hurt when they get a paper cut, or stub a toe, or sustain a sports injury & it hurts like Hell. If another male (potential competition) or a woman (potential mate) is around watching, they'll gut it out & play the macho. That is not to say however that they will ever attempt to seek out that experience again though.

Also, while the woman is sucking 1 man & not the other... what is the other doing? It is not out of the question that the one not currently being serviced may attempt to distract the woman by touching her to maintain his own level of intimate contact, and maybe while so doing--intentionally or not--distract her so that... Ooooo, maybe a slight accident with those teeth might happen.

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Also, is fingercuffs (one vaginally, one orally) inherently degrading, even when it's her idea?

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I'm guessing this must be in conjunction with piercings.

Cuffs are degrading regardless, as that is basically what they are designed & intended to do to anyone wearing them, not too unlike a slave collar. Nonetheless, if the woman chooses to wear them (as a number of women I know in the various kinky circles I run in do; choosing to wear slave collars in public), that is her business how she chooses to feel & what she cares to advertise about herself to anyone who might see her wearing such things.

Caution on fingercuffs though: Unlike handcuffs & leg irons, fingercuffs lack any safety lock to keep them from closing too tightly & pinching once set in place & closed... and they usually are not made of the highest quality metal to prevent rust. Unexpected tugs & pulls from just moving or having them catch on anything can also cause nasty pain & maybe permanent damage.

Date: 2010-04-27 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
It was a quick initial "Both in, a lick or two, then suck one while rubbing the other, and switch off" routine.

And it's not literal cuffs. "Fingercuffs" is a slang term for simultaneous oral and vaginal penetration.

Date: 2010-04-27 03:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The D-Man Checks Back: Concur with what softlywhispered said (mostly).

Eye-contact while engaged in oral sex is a real plus. Having her taken at the same time in the vag' & ass is HOT, but the guy in front risks a certain level of toothy encounters as the woman is moved (however slightly) by the thrusts from behind, and the woman risks a certain amount of gagging as the thrusts from behind accent the thrusts from the front into her mouth & throat. A tricky situation... but definitely HOT.

Maybe it was just me, but the double-oral thing really didn't work too good, and ultimately proved less than satisfying. Man parts just aren't made to bend certain ways, and the delicate sides of a woman's mouth can only allow so much in at one time without discomfort. Fine for maybe forcing on a slave girl, but not a free woman of any sexual experience & oral talent. Too much of a good thing sometimes really can be too much.

Date: 2010-04-27 03:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The D-Man Checks Back Yet Again: Maybe have her blindfold the men. Adds an extra dimension of eroticism. This will heighten the physical sensations for the men as their bodies try to compensate for the loss of the 1 sense by ramping up the remaining 4. It will also cut back on the male competition; kinda like putting blinders on horses. No jealousy & no egos to get in the way if nothing can be seen. Put her in control. If the boys wanna play & get some, they'd better play along.

Date: 2010-04-27 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenskye8.livejournal.com
Other than the "can she really fit two cocks in her mouth at the same time" question - I think it sounds just fine to me...

The squicky would only be if the twins were not happy with having to share intimate moments together, or if they were being forced into incest... If they're happy sharing her in that way, then it's no different than if they were unrelated...

And fingercuffs (and or DP) are hot so long as she's enjoying herself (which I would expect if it's her idea)...

Date: 2010-04-27 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
It's a very brief lick and flick so shouldn't be terribly uncomfortable for a long period.

No forcing on her part. She's giving them a little telepathic guidance, but that's all. Just little nudges that let them have thoughts like "licking a little higher would be good."

The sharing part is their preferred mode. And she is very much enjoying herself.

Date: 2010-04-27 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reannon.livejournal.com
I am so not your target audience for that. A MFM threesome is my definition of hot - rawm. But the brothers part squicks me, even if it doesn't squick them. Never mind the twins part or how much they're involved with each other. Never mind somehow sucking two men at once, which sounds interesting but I kind of doubt it would actually work, and reading about it I'd be more worried for possible injury to the poor woman's jaw than turned on. Twincest may be common in fandom, but it's a real turnoff for me.

Clearly, though, I'm in the minority.

Well...

Date: 2010-04-27 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
>> Is having her take them both in her mouth at the same time, then alternate sucking one then the other, on the hot or the squicky side? <<

If they fit, it's fine. Most women probably could not comfortably suck on two penises at once, unless those were smaller than average. But it would probably be possible to wrap lips around both of the heads.

>> Also, is fingercuffs (one vaginally, one orally) inherently degrading, even when it's her idea? <<

There are sex toys made to do that sort of thing; some women like it. So if that's what she wants, go for it. It's her body.

Re: Well...

Date: 2010-04-27 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
You get it. They aren't small (we get explicit measurements, since it's all for science)

Date: 2010-04-27 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baka-kit.livejournal.com
My jaw hurts just THINKING about sucking two guys at once, but I have TMJ, so ... yeah.

I don't think that there's anything "inherently" degrading about any particular acts. (I've got a mini-rant on the subject somewhere at the back of my head, but this is neither the time nor the place for it.)

Date: 2010-04-27 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tannenwynn.livejournal.com

Is having her take them both in her mouth at the same time, then alternate sucking one then the other, on the hot or the squicky side?


What you said about once in, couple o' licks, etc., should be fine. I've seen that done in both het & homo pr0n. If pornstars can do it, shouldn't be a problem. ^.^

Also, is fingercuffs (one vaginally, one orally) inherently degrading, even when it's her idea?

Having been in this particular position myself, I'd definitely say hawt over degrading - especially since it's her idea.

And to counter the D-man... Any woman who is in control of a MFM scene, especially one that has any kind of experience with the beast known as a threesome, can multitask quite well without even the slightest, unintentional injury to anyone. And the character, with her telepathic link to her chosen partners, should have even more control than a mere mortal woman. xo^..^ox

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