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So, last night was realm class.
We're talking about Deity and the ways of approaching it.

Most of the class is polytheistic animists. We have a Poly elementalist. And me, the nontheistic pantheist.

I blame George Lucas.

I believe there is a higher power, a life energy created by the universe. I believe gods and goddesses are metaphors and focusing devices humans create to access aspects of that energy.

When I talk about Freyja, on one hand yes, I mean the blonde in the feather cloak in a chariot drawn by cats. But what I really am talking about is strength and bravery and love and desire.

It's an interesting thing to learn that after 30 years of "Force schmorce, I got me a wookiee," I really am a Jedi after all...

Mark Hamill, Yoda
more lol celebs!

Date: 2009-01-31 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlm121.livejournal.com
I had an odd reaction to this. Posted then deleted a comment and spent sometime thinking about it. You and I share in part a religious education that was pretty much Big Sky God can do no wrong, which in part was a reinforcement of our father's parenting techniques. I think we both have a serious issues with relgious institutions and patriarchy. The Jedi and the Sith are the institutional representations of "The Force" both manipulate it and do things in it's name that serve their own interest.

I always try to think about what Joseph Campbell thought about Star Wars. That is was merely a new way of telling an old story. It took archetypes and religious experience and put it in a setting that was new. I don't think it's so much faith based on fiction as it is faith based on a new mythos.

My two cents, but I am probably overthinking this.

Date: 2009-01-31 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
Between Lucas and Julian May...
I've always loved mythology. And I always knew SW was.

I loved May's idea that God is a Matrix of Reality, and when we pray, we coerce God, which in turn coerces ourselves. That ritual and prayer are not for the Deity, but for the believer.

And yeah, I got patriarchy coming at me from all sides as a kid and grew up fighting it. My maternal grandmother told me when I was about 9-10, "When you get married, make sure your husband makes more than you do." (the fact that he does is a function of him being on the same job for 12 years and me only having a year and a half)

Date: 2009-01-31 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenskye8.livejournal.com
That ritual and prayer are not for the Deity, but for the believer.

Hey - you're Jewish! :)

*teasing*
*big silly grin*

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