The D-Man Checks In: As with anything relating to teenagers... You can teach 'em but you can't make 'em if they don't wanna. I believe the Republican message is: "Thou should not..." Not, "Thou shalt not..."
Would it have been preferable that she aborted?
Plus I understand the girl in question is getting married to the father, so the problem here is... What?
If this is the best heavy artillery the Democrats can come up with to point fingers at, they're in for a serious pounding.
1) It came from Mudd. Who has seen first hand the results of "Abstinence Only." He knows it doesn't work. He's for abstaining, but knows that if you withhold information, you're not making the kids safer.
2) The problem is not JUST the shotgun wedding, but the whole notion that "She's making the right choice." If these people get their way, no one will have any choices other than the ones they dictate. "Choice for me but not for thee" is a big part of life for Republican women, many of whom think they're smarter and better than "those stupid selfish monsters" that make up the rest of their sex.
3) No, we got plenty more. Book banning theocrat, petty dictator, secessionist and more.
#1. It would have been preferable she had accurate knowledge of how not to get pregnant at all with birth control. (Which her mother is against, both the education and the BC)
#2. It had be preferable that if the birth control failed, she had safe and speedy access to emergency contraception, aka Plan B. (Which her mother is against.)
#3. Don't delude yourself that she ever had a choice between termination and carrying to term, even short of running away from home to have it done. (Republicans like her mother like to throw up parental notification laws to prevent their wayward daughters from disobeying them.)
#4. Her only choice here as a daughter of a Republican who has successfully kept her from education, prophylactics, medication, surgery, and her own choice, is to keep her baby and marry its father, or give the baby up for adoption.
#5. *If* Bristol Palin got pregnant by accident and she really wishes it hadn't happened, it doesn't change the fact that her body has been hijacked and is now forced to carry a child to term whether she likes it or not. And the cherry on the shit sundae is, if she's not sure she could go through the adoption process and wants to raise the child at all, she'll have to do it tied to its father legally as either underage, or barely into majority if she waits until 18 to marry.
And all of it can be pinned to her mother's Republican policies.
There is the point in five points. And some pretty fucking heavy artillery, especially for anyone with the same body parts that could be hijacked, and everyone else who cares about those people.
A woman's right to choose kept my life from being a lot more complicated & difficult many years ago. As for Mudd's poster, I just like playin' Devil's Advocate... Especially if I detect any scent of there being a case wherein the side being opposed can never do anything right, and that someone pointing fingers might ignore their own principles just to find fault & have something to point at.
You can't teach those who don't wanna learn...
Once the tart's pregnant, there's only 2 real options; one of which Mudd must support (and make the best of a bad situation by choosing the lesser of two evils, once the primary goal fails--which was/is virtually inevitable given the population, hormones, natural impulses, and youth sub-culture we are attempting to teach/counter-act).
Were it my daughter messing with my political platform... I'd have quietly pushed for the abortion & kept it out of the press. Failing that, keep her isolated at home in Alaska with the rest of my kids & out of the lime light--claiming the political trail is no place for children--then have a quiet shotgun wedding (preferably after the election), and not make it an issue... Rather than risk showing America that my family is also imperfect & that as a parent I too have my own burdens to bear with a teenage daughter being a teenager. Goodness gracious, we wouldn't want anyone to elect an actual human being with the same problems as many other (common) people to higher office. The public wants perfect-looking empty suits spouting empty promises. Celebrity but no substance. Rhetoric but no track record.
...Or at least that seems to be what the Left wants.
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Would it have been preferable that she aborted?
Plus I understand the girl in question is getting married to the father, so the problem here is... What?
If this is the best heavy artillery the Democrats can come up with to point fingers at, they're in for a serious pounding.
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Date: 2008-09-04 11:44 am (UTC)2) The problem is not JUST the shotgun wedding, but the whole notion that "She's making the right choice." If these people get their way, no one will have any choices other than the ones they dictate. "Choice for me but not for thee" is a big part of life for Republican women, many of whom think they're smarter and better than "those stupid selfish monsters" that make up the rest of their sex.
3) No, we got plenty more. Book banning theocrat, petty dictator, secessionist and more.
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Date: 2008-09-04 12:09 pm (UTC)#1. It would have been preferable she had accurate knowledge of how not to get pregnant at all with birth control. (Which her mother is against, both the education and the BC)
#2. It had be preferable that if the birth control failed, she had safe and speedy access to emergency contraception, aka Plan B. (Which her mother is against.)
#3. Don't delude yourself that she ever had a choice between termination and carrying to term, even short of running away from home to have it done. (Republicans like her mother like to throw up parental notification laws to prevent their wayward daughters from disobeying them.)
#4. Her only choice here as a daughter of a Republican who has successfully kept her from education, prophylactics, medication, surgery, and her own choice, is to keep her baby and marry its father, or give the baby up for adoption.
#5. *If* Bristol Palin got pregnant by accident and she really wishes it hadn't happened, it doesn't change the fact that her body has been hijacked and is now forced to carry a child to term whether she likes it or not. And the cherry on the shit sundae is, if she's not sure she could go through the adoption process and wants to raise the child at all, she'll have to do it tied to its father legally as either underage, or barely into majority if she waits until 18 to marry.
And all of it can be pinned to her mother's Republican policies.
There is the point in five points. And some pretty fucking heavy artillery, especially for anyone with the same body parts that could be hijacked, and everyone else who cares about those people.
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Date: 2008-09-04 12:15 pm (UTC)Royal Fail.
Date: 2008-09-04 12:23 pm (UTC)no subject
A woman's right to choose kept my life from being a lot more complicated & difficult many years ago. As for Mudd's poster, I just like playin' Devil's Advocate... Especially if I detect any scent of there being a case wherein the side being opposed can never do anything right, and that someone pointing fingers might ignore their own principles just to find fault & have something to point at.
You can't teach those who don't wanna learn...
Once the tart's pregnant, there's only 2 real options; one of which Mudd must support (and make the best of a bad situation by choosing the lesser of two evils, once the primary goal fails--which was/is virtually inevitable given the population, hormones, natural impulses, and youth sub-culture we are attempting to teach/counter-act).
Were it my daughter messing with my political platform... I'd have quietly pushed for the abortion & kept it out of the press. Failing that, keep her isolated at home in Alaska with the rest of my kids & out of the lime light--claiming the political trail is no place for children--then have a quiet shotgun wedding (preferably after the election), and not make it an issue... Rather than risk showing America that my family is also imperfect & that as a parent I too have my own burdens to bear with a teenage daughter being a teenager. Goodness gracious, we wouldn't want anyone to elect an actual human being with the same problems as many other (common) people to higher office. The public wants perfect-looking empty suits spouting empty promises. Celebrity but no substance. Rhetoric but no track record.
...Or at least that seems to be what the Left wants.