The Den of Debauchery&#39;s Subannex

Darryl Worely's song isn't a recant. It's real life. To quote Sherman "War is hell". I happen to like and agree with Worely. I find it interesting that NONE of the country stations would play "Have You Forgotten?" until Sean Hannity played it on his radio show and then it shot to the top of the charts for WEEKS.

Yes, I'm an evil person. I'm pro-War, pro-Troops, pro-Bush, and pro-American. Bad me.

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That doesn't make you an evil person. If you're a friend of Angel's, then you probably have your intelligent reasons for what you support.

I just resent the implication that being anti-war and anti-Bush makes one anti-American. Just because I don't think we should be in Iraq and because I didn't vote for Bush either time and don't like what he's doing, that doesn't make me anti-American, pro-Nazi, pro-terrorist are anything like that. It just means I have a different opinion than you do.

I AM anti-sheep, though.

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I wasn't implying that. I was just giving a list of what I am. Being one or the other doesn't make you a third. I am just all three separately and together. If that makes sense.

Heck, my boyfriend, whom I love dearly and is a wonderful person, yeah, I'm bias. ;-) He's Anti-War, Anti-Bush, but Pro-American. We get heated with each other because we are the people who's opinions matter the most to each other and don't discuss it often, because...mostly he gets upset and I love him and don't want to hurt him. We're both very opinionated.

I didn't mean to make my entry so knee jerk. I'm just a bit prickly at the moment. I've been going through a lot of crap with people from the RP group I had been a member of for about 9 years. I ended up resigning with about 5 other people because they can't deal with a person having a brain and/or using it. Just found it interesting they found someone who only RPs once or twice a month when they RP twice a week such a danger to break the club bylaws to suspend them. *sigh*

Didn't intend to imply anything.

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Group RP politics. Ouch. Totally understandable there.

It's all right, my response was a bit knee-jerk itself. I've just gotten so much flack from and seen so many people who DO think I'm a Nazi or something because of my anti-war stance. So my apologies as well.

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Actually, I think you and Mika would get on famously.

And both of you go back and reread that verse of the Kristofferson song I posted. *puts on stern teacher face and then giggles*

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Ah well, at least you're educable.
and 2 out of 4 isn't bad.

I was for the war in Afghanistan.
But attacking Iraq was the equivalent of FDR declaring war on India after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

And I only voted for Bush once. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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While it's great to see a legend like Merle Haggard saying we should focus on ourselves first, unfortunately I don't think Darryl Worely's stance has changed that much at all. That song doesn't seem to be a turn around from "Have You Forgotten." All it really does is recognize the life-changing effects war has on soldiers... and tells us we should care a lot more about what happens to them. There's no commentary on the war itself, only on people's perceptions. I'd have to say Worely still supports the war, he's just not as vocal about demanding everyone else support it as well.

Darryl Worely and Toby Keith are the two country music artists that have "suffered" from my personal boycott of them. Because I'm not like the throngs of morons who got the Dixie Chicks taken off the radio. When a song by Worley or Keith came on, I just turned the station. But I can't listen to the Dixie Chicks on the radio because the vast majority of country music listeners weren't thinking for themselves and went batshit.

I bought the newest Dixie Chicks CD. Take THAT, American sheep.

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See, I'm the other way. I don't mind people objecting to the war when they do it intelligently. What I do object to is obnoxious people. ;-)

But then, I never liked the Dixie Chick from the get go. ;-) And...umm...though I do like Toby Keith (sort of) and Darryl Worely, the only Country CDs I've gotten are Rascal Flatts and Lonestar. ;-) Along with a couple singles I bought to make music vids to.

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Hey, at least you didn't like the DC from the get go. You weren't one of their die-hard fans that suddenly had a turn around just because Natalie Maines expressed her opinion (agreed she might have found some other way to do so?), and proceeded to burn and/or stomp their CDs into the ground. I respect that.

Rascal Flatts, yay! Lonestar, I love. They have some incredible harmonies.

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Oh, they do and that's what I love. :-)

I want the new Rascal Flatts CD, but what few CDs I've gotten lately have been David Arkenstone and Gary Stadler because I can use them at work. I work in the Activities Dept of a nursing home and use those CDs for my Sensory Group with the lower functioning residents. :-)

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I <3 the "Mr. Mom" video.

"Rewind Barney for the 18th time"
yep, been there.

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This would be why I listen to Outlaw country and boycott Clear Channel entirely. (the boycott started the day I tried 2 country and 2 pop stations and got Shania Twain on all 4 doing the SAME SONG)

I dunno about Worely. I like his voice and some of his work. (I did a Han/Luke vid to "I miss my friend")

Keith is exactly what he calls himself: white trash with money. And that's not a compliment.

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Item 1. Pro-war and Pro-Bush go together.

Item 2. Pro-troops and Pro-American go together.

However it just boggles my mind now item 1 and 2 can even be *remotely* considered on the same side of spectrum.

If one is pro-troops, one does not support sending them into illegal wars of greed to be killed or maimed. One does not also support the Bush-administration policy of denying them benefits and proper care once they get home. This describes what I heard in the Worely song.

If one is pro-American, one does not support the squandering of the national treasury and "redistrubution" of public funds (America's money to spend on improving America!) into the pockets of overcharging war profiteers (A second vacation home and private jet for a CEO!). This describes what I heard in the Haggard song.

However, I still despise country music. Blech.

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Hee, I'm subverting you one Steve Earle song at a time and you know it.

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Welll... Haggard is really a loose cannon, politically. Much like Johnny Cash 8-) He's probably written as many songs that have been taken up by the left ("Okie" notwithstanding) as he has songs that have been taken up by the right. His own brand of working class radicalism comes the surface and he just blasts whichever end of the political spectrum is making him mad at the moment. So I'm not surprised.

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I have loved his work since I was in single digits. And he is very much a loose cannon. But he has always loved his country and the people in it.

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Two people of colour in one music video. A country video? I was just getting pissed off that that Gretchen Wilson has a song where she talks about 'being for the creatures' and a black man shows up on screen. Politically Uncorrect - yes, I think so indeed.

I blink a lot.

I know the bigger issue is that this war is my generations Vietnam and horribly so.

But I'm still going 'a female soldier, being active, who is also a woman of color?! And a country song remembering First Nations Peoples? OMG'

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