Amusing short vid

[valarltd]

I don't agree with the march itself. But the video is cool.

http://www.rightwingeye.com/



I am not Pro-Choice. I am not Pro-Life. I believe abortion is killing. But I also believe there are times when a death is the only answer. The good of the many outweighs the good of the individual.

I also think too many women are irresponsible. There's a classic southern legal defense "he needed killin'." There is a medical diagnosis "too stupid to live." My opinion is that there should be the position "too careless to be trusted with a uterus, let alone a baby."

I think a woman who finds herself needing an abortion for reasons other than fetal deformity or her life is stupid. She is careless and irresponsible. She has failed to control her fertility and her body.

But I won't stop her getting one. I reserve the right to hold her up as a poor example of responsible feminity.

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[slashmommy.livejournal.com]

Just going to start by saying, not an attack and you are perfectly free to have your opinion. I have friends who are pro-choice and friends who are pro-life.

My main thing though is that there is more to the March for Women's Lives than just the Choice issue. Other issues include: the pressure at the Department of Health and Human Services to marry (Horn has proposed denying benefits to cohabitating couples and withholding money from single mothers until all married couples have been served.), the availability of health insurance (About 15 % of the U.S. population (44 million Americans, including 8.5 million children) do not even have health insurance), the global gag rule (The current administration has reinstated the “Global Gag Rule,” which denies US funding to non-US family planning organizations that perform abortions, provide abortion referrals, or advocate for reproductive justice—even if they use their own money to do so including the Nations Population Fund), and sex education since the current administration wants to limit it to abstinence only.

I'm not saying the March will not also be discussing abortion, just that it is about more than that.

I'm marching in part because of my political beliefs, but also because of my cousin. She is a prime example of what can happen when things go wrong. She is 17 years old and is 8 months pregnant. She did everything right -- used a condom (which broke) and spermicide but that wasn't enough to prevent her getting pregnant. She didn't find out until she was too far along to abort that the child is going to have a cleft palatte (sp?) and that this is often tied to heart issues so when the time comes, there she'll be with a kid with that many issues and only her parents to support her. This is why the whole issue with the Department of Health and Human Services is an important issue for me. I don't want to see my cousin marrying, just because it is the best way for her to get assistance.

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

I support the pressure to marry. Marriage is the single best anti-poverty program out there. I can see serving married families first.

The health insurance is a pain for everyone. Been there, not had it.

The global gag rule does what it was intended to do: encourages the spread of AIDS in the third world, and reduces the female population by encouraging maternal death.

I approve of fighting for sex education. Long, comprehensive and intense.

Actually, you can abort into the 8th month for fetal deformity.
It just takes a stronger stomach.

[slashmommy.livejournal.com]

I agree that two incomes are better than one, but I'm not sure it is always a viable option. In my cousin's case, marrying this dorky senior in high school, who is living off my aunt and uncle's kindness is not going to help her other than with the Department of Health and Human Services. I would much rather she be single and happy than married to someone who treats her badly because of HHS. Also, not all single mothers are choosing to be single. What about widows? What about rape cases? There are a lot of reasons for being single and a mom other than just promiscuity.

And actually, cleft palatte (sp?) doesn't qualify her to have an abortion this late. The only way she is allowed to have an abortion in her state is if there is an imminent risk to her health.

I am glad to see that the two of us can discuss this without hostility. My sister in law and I can't discuss anything even remotely politically without getting into a fight. :)

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

Rape cases almost never go into pregnancy. That's what the emergency contraception is for in the emergency room.

Three years ago I would have said widows were a rare case. Unfortunately we can't say that anymore. My great-aunt was widowed with 3 boys in the 1950s.

Divorce is another reason.

There are many reasons one would end up a single mother. I wouldn't even class it as necessarily promiscuity. My SiL caught her very first time.

This is why I've always advocated reversible sterilization at menearche.
That way one has to opt into motherhood.

[slashmommy.livejournal.com]

Rape cases almost never go into pregnancy. That's what the emergency contraception is for in the emergency room.

That only accounts for reported rapes where the victim goes to the hospital. A lot of women who are raped do not seek treatment for a variety of reasons.

[yonmei.livejournal.com]

The global gag rule does what it was intended to do: encourages the spread of AIDS in the third world, and reduces the female population by encouraging maternal death.

Actually, the global gag rule is intended to do exactly what you approve of: forcibly prevent women from being, in your terms, "irresponsible". The side-effects are what you describe: but the intention is "pro-life" - that is, anti-choice.