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One of the things I had to do in my portfolio for First Realm Class was talk about ethics.

To me, ethics are different than morality.

Morality is imposed on people in order to force them into intrinsicly unpleasant behaviors that the power structure considers useful to its stability and continued dominance.

Ethics are what people decide for themselves about what is right and good and worth pursuing.

High-authoritarian people love morality. They love the structure of it, the neat way everything falls into the categories of "prescribed" (Thou Shalt) or "proscribed" (Thous Shalt Not).

Ethics bothers them. In ethics, there is no structure, except what the person gives it. The essence of ethics is "you may do what is right and good."

I'm not Wiccan, but I've been giving a lot of thought to the Wiccan Rede and other ethical teachings.

The Rede is a hard thing that takes much examination of yourself and your action.
"An it harm none, do as you will."
Harm none. None. Not others, not yourself. That calls into question every possible action you perform, from skipping brushing your teeth one night (harming yourself) to speeding (harming self and others) to the food you eat to the way you live.

Do as you will.
Do you know your own will?
What do you will?
Not only must you know it, you must do it. I can will the laundry to be done all I like, but until I get up and start the washer, it remains undone. (then we're back to the harm thing with choice of detergent, with choice of line or dryer, cold water or warm) Magic is applied will. You push against the matrix of reality when you perform magic, but you have to be dead certain of your will. Because you're part of the matrix and you're pushing yourself as well.

I've been examining my will of late. All my life, I was taught that my own will was a bad thing; it was selfishness and headstrong rebellion. My will. My power. What is it I will? How many years have I been sending harm out into the matrix, both inadvertantly and deliberately, both free-floating and targeted? Now, what do I will? What do I need? And how do I stop sending out the bad stuff?

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In many cases, morality is assumed to mean sexual morality. Of a girl who gets pregnant very young, we say, "She just wasn't raised with good morals."

But is there an intrinsic value to virginity? Or even fidelity when there is no formal agreement to it? Or are we holding over and imposing notions from a time when a daughter's marriageability (hence the end of her family spending money on her) was determined by her sexual status?

And what of those whose ethics say that sex, freely given, freely received, is a good thing to be shared? Or those who think it is a holy thing, a blessing to be shared with those one is guided to? (This assumes consentual, non-coercive relationships. Underage teens and children are incapable of consent and must always be considered coerced, as must animals. Harm none.) For them, having sex is the right and good thing to do.

One of my personal ethical rules is "Don't harm the littles." It comes straight from SW fanfic, a part of Chewbacca's personal code. (Everyone is little to him, hence the phrasing) "A little" means anyone with less physical, mental, emotional, economic or social power than you. It is a sexual ethic, in that it requires sex to be shared with someone on a equal footing with yourself: a consenting adult who is not coerced through any means, including emotional. But it also covers many other things: how to treat children. How to treat the poor. How to treat the handicapped. How to deal with class issues. Some call it Noblesse Oblige, the idea that with privilege comes responsibilities. "With great power comes great responsibility."

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It's all very complicated, because adults deal in shades of grey. I am not a high authoritarian person. Rules leave me rebellious

I grow more deeply in love with Micah 6:8 each day:
He has showed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?

Do justly. Be fair and honest and scrupulous in all dealings (harm none)

Love mercy. Feel for others (even though they be turkeys). Treat them the way they want to be treated. (harm none, do your will)

Walk with your god(s). Optional for those without, but vital for those with. (do your will)

Easy. Except it's not. It's pretty much everything.

Date: 2009-09-26 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyren-2132.livejournal.com
Way over my head. I've always believed/been taught that morals and ethics go hand-in-hand and aren't really something where you can be for one and against the other. Like, morals are what you believe to be right and wrong and those basic beliefs shape your ethics.

For instance, if I believe killing people is immoral, my ethics are to not support the death penalty.

Date: 2009-09-26 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
Thanks for weighing in. It's a different point of view than mine, where morals are simply other people's ethics that got forced on one.

Date: 2009-09-27 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tannenwynn.livejournal.com
What you believe to be right and wrong are your basic ethics. The morals that you have been taught can influence them or outright stop you from living up to your code of ethics.

So, from my point of view, hon, I believe that ethically, if someone has wronged me in a serious enough manner (say, killed my sister), I would be well within my rights to punish the person myself in a like manner (killing him in return). However, because in our society, it is considered immoral (and thus against the law) to take another person's life, I cannot. Or, another one would be that if I fell in love with two people, and those two felt love for each other as well, why cannot all three of us get married? Ethically, since we're all consenting, it should be possible. Morally, in our society, it would be wrong because marriage should be one man and one woman only. *shrugs*

I hope that helps you see a little more of what [livejournal.com profile] valarltd is pondering over, here. Or, if I've confused you more, feel free ask me questions or to tell me to take a flying leap. ^.^

Date: 2009-09-27 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyren-2132.livejournal.com
What you believe to be right and wrong are your basic ethics. The morals that you have been taught can influence them or outright stop you from living up to your code of ethics.

Yeah, that's just the exact opposite of what I was trying to say and perhaps not saying well because I haven't had reason to get all academic about morals/ethics in awhile. The Wise Geek probably explains it better with:

Morals define personal character, while ethics stress a social system in which those morals are applied. In other words, ethics point to standards or codes of behavior expected by the group to which the individual belongs. This could be national ethics, social ethics, company ethics, professional ethics, or even family ethics. So while a person’s moral code is usually unchanging, the ethics he or she practices can be other-dependent.

I'm pretty sure I got [livejournal.com profile] valarltd's general views on moral/ethics, it was mainly the parts of the post about will and laundry that I admittedly skimmed through and am unclear on how it relates to morals/ethics. I guess I should go back and read more carefully.

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